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♪ good morning. happy mother's day. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." you don't need us to tell you these are complicated times. seemingly growing more complicated by the day. one possible reason, the technology surrounding us. new, improved, from smartphones to self-driving cars. even when it comes to basic home appliances, we're increasingly confronted with more features and options than we know what to do with. so what ever happened to simplicity? the answer david pogue tells us is, well, it's complicated.

>> reporter: from the dawn of technology, our machines have evolved according to one rule. keep adding features. >> most of these things are too complicated. most people don't use all of the capabilities even in their own kitchen. >> reporter: but now a breakthrough. >> a lot of that complexity, all that's going away because a.i. is going to enable us to ask for what we want. >> reporter: can new technologies simplify our old ones? coming up on "sunday morning." for some two decades, he has been dishing out real talk on his hbo show, "real time with bill maher" where he takes on the right, criticizes the left, and generates laughs along the way. this morning he is in conversation with robert costa. >> thank you, real timers. >> reporter: when "real time" hits the air each friday night -- >> robert f. kennedy jr. -- >> reporter: bill maher is both

host and provocateur. >> he hasn't conceded the 2020 election yet. >> reporter: take it from me, you've got to bring your "a" game. >> a lot of people don't want to get in the arena and get br bloodied up. >> if you say or support something goofy, i'm going to call you out. >> reporter: ahead on "sunday morning," getting real with bill maher. her distinctive voice made amy winehouse a star, but addiction ultimately will led to her death at age 27. her brief but legendary life is now the subject of a new movie. seth doane has a preview. >> i was blown away by that rawness, that talent and energy around her. >> reporter: seeing amy winehouse on stage and then trying to re-create that connection for audiences on film. how different is your singing voice from amy's? >> that sound i knew was going

to be a challenge to try to replicate. >> reporter: taking on the role and life of amy winehouse later this "sunday morning." before you give mom those fresh flowers, you might want to consider the cutting edge alternative conor knighton shows us. luke burbank visits the set of the hit show "young sheldon," now ending a seven-season run. tracy smith is on broadway with actor sarah paulson. alina cho introduces us to a fax legend with an unlikely but surprisingly familiar calling. plus, humor from faith salie. a story from steve hartman. josh seftel and hits mom stop by and more. it's sunday morning, may 12, 2024, and we'll be back after this.

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truth is ever to be found in simplicity. well, if sir isaac were around today and tried to use a laptop or drive a car, or even turn on the stove, let's just say simple, they are not. david pogue searches for simplicity in a complicated world. ♪ >> reporter: everywhere you look things are getting more complicated. our phones have over 1,000 settings. showerheads come with apps. cars have touchscreens. ovens have touchscreens. >> there is no doubt that featuritis is real and most of these things are too complicated. >> reporter: design consultant jakob nielsen says part of the problem is bad design. >> simplicity is difficult to achieve. it takes a good amount of time and talent as well.

>> reporter: and part of the problem is us. as consumers, we tend to buy the gizmos with the most features. >> if i give you the choice between this toothbrush can do two things and this does five, you may think the five feature toothbrush is a better toothbrush. i think we have identified the nub of the entire problem. >> reporter: manufacturers know that we will always pick the bun with more features. that's the incentive to keep piling them on? >> yeah, they have the incentive to do more of that. >> reporter: if you think today's products are hard to learn, try designing them. do you happen to know in tomato how many commands there are in microsoft word? >> having redesigned all of the icons in all of office that the collection of all of office's thousands and thousands, tens of thousands. >> reporter: really? >> yeah. >> reporter: oh, man. jon friedman is microsoft's chief of design. and yet what would happen if you in a new version were to attempt to take away something that

didn't get -- >> some set of people would feel like we removed something important for them. this is the conundrum. how do we take the power of what can be added to products as technology gets better and make it really simple for people. >> reporter: over the years microsoft has tried many times to strike that balance. when people complained that microsoft word was too complex, microsoft offered a simpler streamlined word processor called write. it bombed. >> it was one size fits all. that's really hard. simplicity can only come when it's truly adapted to each individual's definition of what is simple for them. >> reporter: and then there was clip by, the cartoon paperclip. >> it would proactively come forward and something like word and say it looks like you are trying to write a resumé and help you with the tools you need to do something like write a resumé. >> reporter: clippy flopped, too. >> i think it was before its time. >> reporter: achieving simplicity is harder when you

are designing cars because your customers are supposed to keep their eyes on the road. >> everything is getting more complex and now you can imagine what it means in a vehicle environment where you have to drive. in addition, you get all kinds of information. >> reporter: frank webber is the head of vehicle development for bmw in munich. another company that experimented with designs for simplicity. >> the bmw idrive system. >> reporter: in early 2000s it introduced a turning, tilting, clicking knob for navigating menus called idrive. it was not a hit. >> perhaps you own a bmw and it's making you feel a bit like -- >> and we were heavily criticized, heavily criticized. it was not that everybody loved it from the beginning because their experience was different than they had with the other vehicles. you have to be very careful not to overwhelm people when you go

from one generation to another generation. >> reporter: but now are you ready for some good news? these companies say that thanks to new breakthrough technologies they are on the verge of curing featuritis once and for all. >> drive me to berlin. >> reporter: in bmw's 2025 cars it will be voice control. what are some of the things that you will be able to do by voice a used to require going through menus? >> many, many of the things, whether you ask for service, whether you want to change the interior color of your vehicle, i think if you want to go to a sport mode, typical things you have to go deep into your menu structure, people will never do this again. >> reporter: the new cars can also show key information beneath the entire windshield so you don't have to look down. and unlike some car companies, bmw promises not to eliminate

physical knobs for radio and climate. it sounds like you're saying the answer is not voice. the answer is not touchscreens. the answer is not physical buttons. it sounds like your approach is to divide up the driving tasks to each control that's best suited to it? >> yeah, optimizing that setup is, i think, the art of controlling a vehicle. >> reporter: meanwhile, microsoft says that it, too, is about to crack the complexity conundrum. >> with the dawn of the next wave of computing, probably the most impacting thing we will see in our lifetimes. >> reporter: according to chief marketing officer meti the solution is artificial intelligence. >> a lot of that complexity of files and menus and buttons, all that's going away because a.i.'s going to enable us to just ask for what we want. >> reporter: this feature called co-pilot is a new app for

smartphones and computers. >> for example, i can say, hey, turn my pc to dark mode. just like that, i'm in dark mode. >> reporter: i could put this into focus mode, do not disturb without knowing where it is in the settings? >> 100%. just plain english. >> reporter: could i say pull up that email to my mom? >> yes. you can absolutely do that. you will be able to say show me all the emails from my mom last week. >> reporter: of course, not everyone will be happy. people don't like change, do they? >> no, people do not like change. that's for sure. >> reporter: so, will voice control and a.i. help with the complexity problem? we'll soon find out. meantime, if you feel intimidated by complexity, design consultant jakob nielsen has two pieces of parting advice. first, no need to feel like a techno loser. >> it's not your fault. it's the designer's fault of

making it complicated. it doesn't have to be complicated. >> reporter: second. >> don't be seduced by this promise of a toothbrush that could do 20 things when you only need to do one thing. go for simplicity. buy simplicity. then your life will be happier.

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bouquets. social media led to a sort of super bloom of renewed interest with people showing off creations and teaching others how to follow in their footsteps. >> you are going to pull one side. >> reporter: these amateur paper pushers are attempting some of quynh nguyen's floral designs. >> start with the gap. look how pretty that is. >> i didn't realize i was an artist until i started doing paper flowers and it fell into a beautiful world of meeting other people that love making paper flowers and it's just opened my eyes, like, oh, you actually do this as a living. >> reporter: known online as pink and posey, quynh managed it craft a career out of paper by taking on everything from corporate commissions to co-hosting more than 150 episodes of a paper talk podcast. >> this one is the most difficult to make. this is a double peony. >> reporter: how much trial and error? >> so much. i think that's the fun part. being a creative, as an artist,

what can i do with in flat piece of paper and make something really amazing with it? >> reporter: while flowers be made with everything from tissue paper to card stock, pliable european crepe paper tends to give the most realistic results. >> this is the italian one. this the 90 gram. >> reporter: wow. >> keep stretching it. >> reporter: that's a magic trick, huh? working at home in kirkland, washington, quynh takes pains to make her flowers as realistic as possible. >> rub it into the paper. >> reporter: hand painting details, obsessing over every petal. until i touch this, i had no idea one was real and one was fake. i forgot which is which. >> i am happy to hear that. that's the best compliment anyone can give me. >> reporter: artist ann wood known on instagram as woodlucker models her flowers after the ones inner garden. the ones in her hand are made of paper.

paper also offers an opportunity to create fanciful larger than life blooms. artist tiffanie turner's giant art pieces show in high end galleries and sell for tens of thousands of dollars. and yet there can be a stigma that paper is cheap or tacky. >> i was talking to my mom when i first did paper flowers in vietnam. she was like, oh, that was the poor people way of bringing flowers to the wedding because they couldn't afford fresh flowers. >> reporter: today paper flowers can often be more expensive than the genuine article. which makes sense when you consider all the time involved in making one. the process is the point. >> i love the quiet moment of joy when i create something. >> reporter: of course, there is no smell. >> you can tell the difference. >> reporter: for people with pollen allergies, that could be a plus. for bees, it is very confusing. but the biggest selling point

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there is the quad. it's a nice place to relax. >> reporter: for a show that brought a lot of laughs over the years, there sure were a lot of tears backstage last week. we were texting and you said something about you were crying your eyes out. did you mean that like figuratively? >> no, literally. >> reporter: have you been crying? >> literally crying. >> reporter: when we caught up with executive producers steve molaro and steve holland they were editing the final frames of a show whose success has surprised even them. did you think this is going to be another huge hit? >> never, no. we would never dare to assume we know what we are doing at that level. >> that boy has an exposed tattoo. >> he does. >> i wonder if he knows that's in violation of the dress code? >> i think when you wrote the pilot there was a lot of to do what jim parsons does on big bang theory is a one in a

million shots, a sweetness to jim that it sort of breaks through that and you are, like, is it possible that there is a kid who is 8 who can do that? this is the iain they found iain armitage from his audition tape recorded over christmas break at his grandparents' house on a cellphone. >> this is my harry potter magic wand. >> reporter: we met him when tracy smith interviewed in 2017. what do you think you will be doing in 20, 30 years? >> i think i really -- i, hopefully, am doing magic tricks in las vegas. >> i have to constantly remind myself, if i am sad about this ending, i can only be sad because it's been incredible. >> reporter: armitage pulled off a sort of magic trick. >> could we take a look at where the magic is happening? >> please follow me. >> reporter: helping carry a network tv hit -- >> hello, i'm sheldon cooper. >> reporter: and becoming famous while staying surprisingly disarmingly even pleasant to be

around. >> it is funny. i think of this as my house. >> reporter: the set might feel like home, but armitage says he has never quite gotten used to being a tv star. >> when i go home and see thursday night at 8:00, "young sheldon," and i see dmeshls for it, it feels really weird. but i think aside from just delivering the lines, i think it's trying to stay true to jim parsons and his incredible sheldon while kind of making it my own to a degree. >> reporter: speaking of jim parsons, he is, of course, where the character of sheldon cooper started on "the big bang theory." parsons says there is a certain irony to the fact that many sheldon fans are unaware there ever was a show called "the big bang theory." >> almost all of my friends who have children always tell me "young sheldon's" on all the time in our house. and so it's playing to an

entirely different -- a demographic that wasn't born when we started our show and whatever. a demographic that frequently doesn't know what you're talking about when you say big bang theory but they watch "young sheldon," and that's been great. >> auf wiedersehen. >> where are you going? >> library. >> reporter: which brings us back to where we started. why are the shows' creators ending things considering how popular it is? well, for one, the timeline. "young sheldon" is starting to collide with plot points from "the big bang theory." that gets complicated. >> hello, mr. jennings. mr. cooper here. >> reporter: also, maybe because, as executive producer steve molaro sees it, the character of sheldon cooper has accomplished his mission. which it turns out is actually a pretty important one. >> some of my favorite moments are when a mom will come up with her son after are a panel and say, my son's a lot like sheldon

and i know what she means. he is having a tough time. he is different. and thank you for making kids like him more accepted. the fact that we can even move maybe the needle a little bit on that in the world is a reason to do this whole show. ♪ ♪

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[ applause ] >> who the hell are you? >> reporter: if you happen into new york's belasco theatre in the next few weeks -- >> what in the actual [ bleep ] is going on? >> reporter: you might be on familiar ground. a family reunion at full volume. >> rachel, what the hell was that? >> how long was i supposed to let her insult me and my daddy, you piece of [ bleep ]. >> reporter: it's branden jacobs-jenkins tony-nominated appropriate and the human volcano on stage is sarah paulson. >> guess what? if there is a sick person in this family, it's you. >> reporter: can you sum up what "appropriate" is about? >> i thought you were about to ask me if i could sing. >> reporter: i know you can. >> no, i can not sing. >> reporter: yes, you can. a little bit? >> just kidding. "appropriate" is essentially a

family drama-com. >> my father is dead. our father is dead. the only man we all shared is dead. >> reporter: and it's pretty heavy on the dram. the play about siblings coming together after their father sides, secrets revealed, feels hurt, and very little left up sed. paulson is in her element as the older sister toni. >> you know our father wasn't goal guilty of one thing. >> reporter: creating a character who is powerful and vulnerable, if a bit unlikable. do you not have that need to be liked? >> as a person, i'm like, please like me, please, i'm begging you. i am like a puppy dog that way. of course i want to be liked. >> reporter: as an actor? >> as an actor, i feel like i don't think about it at all. >> reporter: and she still can't

believe it's her name above it all on the marquee. she says seeing for the first time was a shock. >> and i did cry because i thought, this is something i never could have imagined. i mean, my mother spent a lot of time taking me to the theater when i was younger because she was a good mom who knew it was really a passion of mine. >> reporter: her mom, catherine gordon, understood it all. she wanted to write, and when she and sarah's dad about divorced she moved her two daughters from florida to new york city in search of a dream. and in what turned out to be the omen of a lifetime, she found work as a waitress at the legendary sardi's restaurant on 44th street, the epicenter of broadway. sarah wound up at laguardia high school for the performing arts. what memories are coming back? >> do you hear that? >> reporter: where she did her best to stand out. >> we had kids whose names were like linnea and romy and suna

and soren. i was like, my name is sarah, so i'm going to change it and had everyone call me saarah. >> reporter: and after graduating in '93, she was really serious about finding work. she skipped college and went to broadway and before long she went from on stage to on screen. playing everything from a sketch comic opposite the late matthew perry -- >> we could end it now, the fight. >> that would be fine, too. >> first of all, could you stop telling people we broke up because of the national anthem? it makes me sound like an i had rit. >> reporter: to an especially cruel slave owner. >> same as the rest. master here to work. that's all. >> reporter: and then she really got busy. in the series american "crime story" prosecutor marcia clark in "the people vs. o.j. simpson." >> i'm not a public personality. this isn't what i do.

i don't know how to do this. >> reporter: that role launched her to the next level. but she still has yet to watch it or anything she's done since. so you didn't watch is in. > i never watched "the people vs. o.j. simpson," no. sterling k. brown is always like, mama, you might want to check it out. i'm like, maybe i do. but he is, like, it's pretty good. i just -- >> reporter: you think you will pick apart? >> i know i will pick it apart. >> reporter: paulson's just as clear-eyed about her personal life. she and actor holland taylor, three decades her senior, have been together since 2015, though at the moment they are working on opposite sides of the country. when do you get to see holland? >> well, holland and i live separately. >> reporter: why? >> i think, you know, i don't know if you know this, but holland is a good bit older than i am. she lived a lot of her life on her own. and i lived a lot of my life on my own. and i think we both sort of arrived at this relationship

sort of recognizing that we both wanted to maintain some of that. we were both sort of adult enough, i think, to say i don't want to give this up and i don't want to give this up, so let's be together but let's also be separate. which is lovely. >> reporter: at the same time, do you miss her? >> oh, god, yes. we get along great on the facetime. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: and some things happen only in new york, like this. last week, sarah paulson had her portrait -- >> i don't think i ever looked better. >> reporter: added to the caricatures of immortals that adorned the walled of sardi's for generations. >> i love it. it's going to be my new head shot, if that's okay. >> reporter: the very place her mom once worked. the man with the picture is sardi's owner max klimavicius, who hired sarah's mom back in the day. >> you are honoring my mother for being brave enough to move to manhattan at 27 years old to

follow her personal dream and to thereby give me a giant springboard towards my own. >> reporter: it's hard to describe the feeling in the room, but you could see it all in the face of a former sardi's employee. >> how proud are you, mama? >> i have been proud of sarah since the day she was born. >> feels happy. it's going to make me cry, so let's not go any further with that one. >> reporter: not only is sarah paulson a sardi's laureate, she has been nominated for a tony in her role in appropriate proemt. >> all this life, what's it for? no one is there to tell you about it. >> reporter: sarah's a fabulous actress. >> i think she is going to win. >> mom! . i do. >> oh, my god. >> i do. i do. >> mom. >> i do. >> mom. >> i think she is going to win. >> reporter: all those seeds planted in her early days in new york new in full bloom.

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you may not know the name, but you know his clothes. alina cho introduces us to the people's designer, fashion legend stan herman. ♪ >> reporter: even if you don't follow fashion, you have seen stan herman's work. just not here. or here. >> we cut a sheath better than anybody in the world. >> reporter: that's a bob mackie gown. lauren hutton wore this dress? part of a recent auction of dre dresses sponsored by the council of fashion designers of america, or cfda. >> red. >> reporter: herman is a former president of the cfda. and indisputety the elder statesman of american fashion. he is 95, and has the stories to

prove to. >> there wasn't an american designer, they didn't let them in front of the showroom. >> reporter: the europeans thought the americans were copying them. >> they were. >> reporter: who is stan herman? really? he has been called the people's designer, the most prolific designer you've never heard of. >> i am a short guy, i'm only 5'4", and i wanted to be a runner, and a little guy running really has to work harder than a big guy because those little legs never stop going. i never quite won every time, but they kept going. >> reporter: as a child, some of herman's earliest memories were helping his father, who owned a silk shop at macy's. he served in the army, even performed on broadway before getting his first big break in 1960 designing a label called

mr. mort. how would you describe the clothes that you were designing for mr. mort? >> i was very sure that women that didn't have a lot of money could have good taste. i put big signs all over the place, said everything in this has to look twice the price. i ended up doing lots of clothes in solid colors because that to me looked very, very expensive. >> reporter: ali macgraw wore mr. mort. mic michael kors' mom did, do. >> stan was there. his clothes were accessible. >> reporter: that is just one thread of stan herman's fascinatingly unconventional life. recounted in his memoir, uncross your legs. unconventional because herman is best known for designing clothes that some might not consider, well, clothes. he designs uniforms. >> they called me one day, would

you be interested in doing uniforms for a large corporation? i said, what are you talking about? i said, we represent avis rent a car and they are looking for a designer. >> a plymouth furry in five minutes? okay. >> i said that's fun. the next thing i knew, twa came calling. >> now twa serves you a delicious steak in coach. >> reporter: he is not the only one. valentino, halston, bill blass and giorgio armani designed uniforms, too. but only stan herman made a career out of it. the ones he did for twa are in the collection of the smithsonian. what struck me about those uniforms was that they look like clothes. >> they are clothes. you just hit the nail on the head. that's why stan herman has been very, very successful. >> reporter: how is this for success? herman designed what's arguably the most iconic recognizable uniform ever made.

this one, for the golden arches that debuted in 1976. ♪ he has been designing for jetblue since the beginning and for fedex for 44 years. every day of carolyn's 28-year career as fedex courier, she has worn a stan herman design. and how does it feel? >> comfortable. yeah, i feel like a superhero when i put this on. >> did you hear that? >> they are very modern. i even have customers that want to wear it. >> reporter: why do you think that is? >> i think i look good in the uniform. >> it's great. >> reporter: and because stan herman is the people's designer -- >> he is here in the studio, our good friend stan herman. >> reporter: he also sells loungewear on qvc. >> it is funny that the end of my life i'm known as the guy who is dressing people in fancy

house dresses. >> reporter: stan herman may not be a household name, but he's dressed millions of households. and at nearly 96, he's not done yet. not even close. >> the poets in our industry, i was a good commercial designer who took from here and here and here and made it look right.

mother's day is in a class all its own. just ask josh seftel and his mom. >> hi. >> hello. can you see me? >> you're on the wifi, right? >> i'm on something. >> is there a symbol like this? >> yes. >> that's good. >> hello! >> what do you think about mother's day? >> i think it's a great idea because i'm a mother. >> do you celebrate mother's day when you were little? >> yeah.

it meant maybe going somewhere special. just spend the day with her. you know, maybe 7, it's hard to remember everything. >> where do you think mother's day ranks as a holiday? >> it's not on the top of my list. i would be pretty upset if my kids forgot it. i think it's important to remember your parents. >> do you think mothers get enough appreciation? >> i don't have any complaints. mother's day is a day to say to myself, how lucky i am to have three children that grew up to be really special people. nobody's ever been in jail. nobody's ever done anything bad. i mean, i'm lucky. >> do you know other countries have mother's days, but they do totally different things like in mexico children stay home with their mom that day. >> oh? >> in australia, they give out chrysanthemums. >> those are nice things. >> in peru they visit the

cemeteries to see the mothers from past generations. >> that shows you that they stay in the same area. the united states, i think because of our society and the family is not together, so you can't really always do that. >> and then in england they give out fruitcakes. >> oh. >> do you like fruitcakes? >> no. >> i don't either. who does? >> the people in england. >> what's it like to have your kids spread out all around and not living nearby? >> it's not good. i mean, i am in touch with everybody, but it would be nice to see people in person more often. >> what would be the perfect mother's day for you? >> to have all my children here. >> mm-hmm. and what would you do? >> go to the beach. go out to eat. just to have everybody here. >> i think all of us wish we could be there with you, but we

are going to see you in a few weeks at a wedding. >> at the wedding. talking about the wedding, i just got a cane and i never saw such a dressy cane in my life. want to see it? >> sure. >> let me go get it. i am going to get it. >> it's fancy. >> isn't it? >> was it expensive? >> yes. it was 50 something. and i could get a cane for $25. but my other cane has butterflies all over it. >> right. >> and it would clash with the dress. >> what's your message to people on mother's day? >> don't forget your mom. but also don't just wait for mother's day. try to stay in touch with your mom wherever you are, even if you are far away. you'll love it. >> since we won't all be together for mother's day, what can we do to help make it special? >> surprise me. >> what if i said you have fruitcake? >> no, thank you. >> how would you like to get some chrysanthemums? >> i'd love it. >> all right. >> bye-bye. love you! >> love you. >> bye.

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♪ ♪ ♪ it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is jane pauley. that's the unmistakable amy winehouse, the talented but troubled british singer who tragically died in 2011.

her story is told in a new movie coming to theaters this week. seth doane tells us all about it. ♪ ♪ ♪ got to make me go to rehab ♪ >> reporter: trying to capture a life in film, nevermind one as complex as that of amy winehouse, can be a challenge. >> i write songs because i don't know what i'd do if i didn't -- i've got to make something good out of something bad. >> reporter: when it comes to biographical films, critics often fire from both sides, calling them exploitative or sanitized. it's not for the faint-hearted director. did you know that you were making a controversial movie? >> there is something about tackling difficult subjects where i just think, come on, let's go. >> reporter: sam taylor-johnson's film "back to back," a drama about the life and music of the british singer, amy winehouse, was generating

interest well before its u.s. release this week. while you were shooting, the pictures were coming out, and there were fierce reactions? >> yeah. and it was difficult in the early days, not because i read anything, because i try not to read anything. >> reporter: you must have been aware when people were saying this is revolting? >> no, i wasn't actually. thanks for letting me know. i make sure everyone on set tells me nothing because i can't make the movie i want to make if i start hearing people's dissenting voices or opinions. >> reporter: "back to black" focuses on the making of the album by that name. it chronicles an intensely creative and complicated period for the multi-platinum-selling artist who would wind up producing only two albums before she died from alcohol poisoning at just 27. ♪ they try to make me go to rehab, i say no, no, no ♪

>> reporter: winehouse's brash charisma, that voice and distinct musical style made her a star. she won five grammys for the album "back to black." >> to my mum and dad. >> reporter: but along with her success, the singer's struggles were well publicized, including her battle with alcohol and drugs and the tumultuous relationship with her husband, blake fielder-civil. there has been so much written and said about her. was there something that you wanted to get across that you didn't feel the public knew? >> i mean, i guess what i wanted to do is to create the whole person and so much of wha we knew about her was by the tabloids. with our movie it's about really being with her as she creates the music. that's the perspective i don't think we have necessarily felt or seen. >> performing live for you, it's amy winehouse. >> reporter: pre-beehive and before the attention, winehouse's talent and self-confidence were already apparent at age 20.

♪ you know i was thinking of you ♪ >> reporter: in this interview on british tv, the host asked her about pressures from her record company. >> have they tried to mold you, change the way you look or speak or behave? >> yeah, one tried to mold me into a triangle shape, and i went, no. >> i said no. it was one of the first times i'd seen her in an interview and i remember thinking, she is funny. and she is quick. >> reporter: taylor-johnson turned to marisa abela to portray the sing early. when others came to the audition they were in the beehive hair and the eye makeup. >> yeah. >> reporter: not you? >> no. i thought that it was important that i had to inhabit amy from the inside out. >> reporter: we met her at london's abbey road studios where she came to record vocals for the film with winehouse's former band. how was that? >> it was amazing.

i mean, it was nerve-racking as you could imagine. not only like incredibly talented sessioned musicians but they are amy's band. my first time singing with any band. >> reporter: wow, and it's amy's band? >> exactly. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: auditioning for this you told sam you couldn' really sing? >> yeah, yeah. there are jobs that come up where you say, yeah, of course i can ride a horse or sword fight. for this, i didn't want to get it in, like, the back doorway. >> reporter: and when marisa says i can't sing, you think? >> it's okay. because i kept thinking, we'll figure out a way and that way, i guess, you know, will be sort of lip lip-syncing and dubbing. it was satisfactory doing it that way. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: in the end, they did not need dubbing. marisa trained and sang the entire film. sam taylor-johnson was equally

obsessed with trying to get every detail right. >> how would amy see this? how would she think? am i telling this authentic to her? would she be mad to me? >> reporter: you were dreaming about her? >> dreaming a lot, yeah, i was, actually. that slipped. >> wake up in the morning and bang it out by lunch. i need to live my songs. >> reporter: about 20 years ago she'd seen winehouse at this london jazz club where they shot scenes for the film. >> she stepped down off the stage and just was singing in a sort of very shy and quite fragile way, but with an incredibly powerful voice. and i do remember just thinking, this is something special. >> i am no spice girl. >> reporter: amy winehouse's story has long been shaped by public perception. her father sometimes seen as an enabler. her husband blamed for her drug use. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: but this film

explores the deep connection winehouse had with them using the singer's own lyrics and writings as a guide. >> i am your wife. i want to be a mom. >> reporter: do the naysayers and critics who say the film is profiting from a story with a tragic ending? >> i think that sometimes when we experience a trauma as a society, like the death of an incredibly loved and respected talent, that trauma and tragedy can eclipse the success. and i think that this story is putting amy right back in the center of her story and giving her her songs back ♪ you go back to her and i go back to black ♪

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laugh and think at the same time? >> totally. of course. i don't understand. there is no cameras at the supreme court. i don't get this. you can film everything in america. you can barely go to washroom on a plane without it being filmed. >> the great thing about laughter is that it's involuntary. so if you laugh at something, something in you tells you that's true, it must be true. i laughed at it. maybe i wasn't supposed to. >> a study of eight developed countries found u.s. students wre dead last in math skills, but number one in confidence in math skills. [ laughter ] >> even though they suck at it. yes, we're number one in thinking we're number one. >> reporter: if you catch yourself laughing at something bill maher has said lately on hbo's "real time," his friday night perch for the past 21 years, just be careful. next time the joke could be on you.

how long have you been -- you have been doing this so long. >> this interview? it does seem like it. >> reporter: nobody is spared bill maher's humor. >> political tv is full of groans and eye rolls -- >> reporter: or, as he sees it, his truth telling, not on the right -- >> if you are going to turn over your party to a foreign power, at least pick the right one. russia? are you kidding? it's like the republic looked over all the companies that could merge with and pick sears. >> reporter: nor on the left. >> you call yourself the resistance? then fight behind enemy lines. that's what a resistance does. that's the difference between blowing up a tank and tweeting about it. get out of your echo chamber and infiltrate theirs. >> reporter: what is the through line through everything you write and everything you say? >> keep it real. you know? don't be tribal. don't say something just because that's going to make the

audience of one side applaud or boo. practical solutions as opposed to idealogical, and don't pull a purge. >> we have a great show. >> reporter: the 68-year-old maher has been swinging at target high and low his entire career, taking his own share of knocks along the way. but he still gladly courts controversy. >> the right response to speech you don't like is more speech, not the lazy, cowardly response of canceling people. >> reporter: that attitude explains the title of his new book, it's compiled from years of maher's commentary on "real time." >> i wanted to see if the world had changed or i had changed more. i was excavating, reading over all these editorials from years and years and years and i want to find that answer. i speak for the normalmys, i think that vast middle that is tired of the partisanship.

i don't want to hate half the country and i don't hate half the country. >> reporter: you write a lot throughout this book that the left irritates you, frustrates you at times, but the right often alarms you? >> yes. they're very alarming. they're extremely alarming. more alarming. >> reporter: what do you say to critics who say then you should just focus on them. if they are more alarming than the left, why not shine the spotlight on them only? >> the truth isn't one-sided like that. the democrats constantly are running against trump with the idea you people out there couldn't possibly vote for this guy. and people are saying, watch me. hold my beer. watch me vote for him again instead of just saying, oh, he has lied. we know he is a liar. he is donald trump. he can't help himself. he is crazy. i mean, i think literally crazy. i think there is a kind of level of malignant narcissism which is not just a personality quirk.

it's diagnosisable and he suffers from it. >> trump made over 8,000 false or misleading statements as president. nothing like this has ever happened before. >> reporter: if you had him on "real time," what would you ask him? >> would you please go away? >> reporter: have you asked him to come on? >> of course. we've asked everybody. i mean, of that stature. he has an open invitation to come on. i don't think he really hates me because i think he -- the amount of times that he goes after me -- >> reporter: he watches the show? >> accidentally. it's always accidentally. he watches it accidentally every week. it's amazing. >> reporter: in fact, conservatives don't shy away from "real time." >> the former attorney general. wow. under president george w. bush and bill barr is here. >> reporter: when bill barr came

on the show, what did some your democratic friends say? >> yeah, this is exactly what i hate about this country. how dare you? how dare you platform someone. >> the way i see it, we are moving, becoming a much more secular society. >> but that's by free will. >> that's good. people do have free will. >> oh, good. >> and they should be able -- they should be able -- >> phew. >> so you have to talk to people, and maybe you'll find out that they are not the monsters you think they are. i mean, do i apologize for bill barr's i thought horrible behavior when the mueller report came out and he basically lied about it. i don't. but, look, this is what i call a good as it gets republican. he came out and said trump lost the election. that's the main thing. in the republican party right now, do you believe elections

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and this mother's day our steve hartman has proof. >> reporter: for peggy of do dowagiac, michigan, mother's day was just another x on the calendar. just another day without her daughter. in 2017, jennifer was critically injured in a car crash. she was 35. on life support? >> yeah. >> reporter: and did the doctor tell you she wasn't going to make is? >> he said she is not going to wake up. of course, i collapsed, you know. it was terrible. >> reporter: her only daughter in a coma with virtually no chance of ever coming out of it. and yet peggy refused to let doctors pull the plug. did you question your decision at any point? >>. >> reporter: not after year one? >> no. >> reporter: year two, three, four, five? >> never. i just couldn't let her go. >> reporter: yeah. one by one, jennifer's friends

stopped visiting. even her husband moved on with his life. and yet almost every day her mom was there to comfort and care, and always talking to her as if jennifer could actually understand, which, of course, she couldn't. until she could. it started with a laugh. jennifer had been off life support, but still in a coma when he mom said something funny, and that was it. >> oh, lord have mercy. >> reporter: a year later jennifer came home. although she still can't walk and struggles to speak, her mind is sharp and her heart filled with joy. what's the best part about being back among us? >> everything. >> reporter: everything? >> yeah. >> reporter: she especially loves visiting with her boys. and as for peggy, the mom who made these moments possible, this mother's day may be her best one of.

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